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Re: InstantDB: Re: instantdb evaluation


Toby

Is what you've done publicly available?

Regards

Pete

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Peter Hearty                         peter.hearty@lutris.com
Lutris Technologies (UK)        http://www.lutris.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tobias Downer" <toby@iglou.com>
To: <instantDB@enhydra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: InstantDB: Re: instantdb evaluation


>
> I take it this is what RmiJdbc essentially does?  It forwards each call
> from the JDBC RMI client to the JDBC driver running on the server.
>
> Peter, have you considered extending the IDB JDBC driver so it natively
> works over TCP/IP?  Supporting scrollable result sets remotely is a very
> cool feature.  If you were to look into natively supporting
> client/server, you would benefit greatly if the communication protocol
> worked at a lower level than the JDBC method calls.  You would lower the
> amount of network traffic.  Only the 'execute' methods in Statement and
> some of the metadata query methods would cause traffic.  ResultSet data
> could be cached on the client.  And valuable resources would be freed on
> the server.
>
> You'd be surprised at how simple a low level JDBC communication protocol
> can be.  We got it down to just four commands from client to server
> (EXECUTE QUERY, GET PART OF A RESULT, DISPOSE RESULT, CLOSE) from client
> to server.  The metadata queries could also be performed with EXECUTE
> QUERY commands, and the updateable result set functionality can be
> achieved by translating them into 'INSERT' and 'UPDATE' SQL statements.
>
> Toby.
>
> Peter Hearty wrote:
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > That's an interesting idea. I've often wanted to have a go at a
lightweight
> > server for IDB. Before discussing that further though, I'd just like to
> > point out that there's the RmiJdbc driver available that already lets
you
> > use IDB in client-server mode. See
> >
> > http://instantdb.enhydra.org/software/documentation/network.html
> >
> > for details.
> >
> > The problem I've always had with writing a dedicated server for IDB was
it's
> > sheer size. You're quite right - it's a very *easy* thing to do (very
little
> > actual thinking involved), but wouldn't it take a lot of time and
effort? If
> > all you wanted to do was send SQL up to be executed then the server
would
> > indeed be very small. Granted, that 90% of the time that's probably all
you
> > do want to do, but java.sql has hundreds, if not thousands, of methods
that
> > would have to be implemented. Wouldn't that involve inventing a line
> > protocol to cope with all of these methods?
> >
> > If you've got a really easy way to avoid all that work I'd be *really*
keen
> > to hear more about it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pete
>
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