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InstantDB: Re: instantdb evaluation



A note on RMI - it sucks.
It requires the registry to be loaded and most people don't get
marshalling. It's also much much much slower then a Socket. So sockets and
servlets should be used and not RMI.
in my opinion of course =)


Robert Milewski  (716) 645-6164 x538
Research Engineer
Center of Excellence for Document Analysis and Recognition
SUNY Buffalo

http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~milewski


On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Peter Hearty wrote:

> Robert
> 
> That's an interesting idea. I've often wanted to have a go at a lightweight
> server for IDB. Before discussing that further though, I'd just like to
> point out that there's the RmiJdbc driver available that already lets you
> use IDB in client-server mode. See
> 
> http://instantdb.enhydra.org/software/documentation/network.html
> 
> for details.
> 
> The problem I've always had with writing a dedicated server for IDB was it's
> sheer size. You're quite right - it's a very *easy* thing to do (very little
> actual thinking involved), but wouldn't it take a lot of time and effort? If
> all you wanted to do was send SQL up to be executed then the server would
> indeed be very small. Granted, that 90% of the time that's probably all you
> do want to do, but java.sql has hundreds, if not thousands, of methods that
> would have to be implemented. Wouldn't that involve inventing a line
> protocol to cope with all of these methods?
> 
> If you've got a really easy way to avoid all that work I'd be *really* keen
> to hear more about it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> --
> 
> Peter Hearty                         peter.hearty@lutris.com
> Lutris Technologies (UK)        http://www.lutris.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert J Milewski" <milewski@cedar.buffalo.edu>
> To: "Peter Hearty" <peter.hearty@lutris.com>
> Cc: "Mark Diekhans" <mark.diekhans@lutris.com>; "instantDB"
> <instantDB@enhydra.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: instantdb evaluation
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > There is a solution which you guys could design and it would be quick.
> > You design a quick server - all it does is pass SQL and Resultsets (for
> > example) through a socket - 1 socket per client connection. Then, on Unix,
> > whichever user the server is executed on will handle the permissions
> > automatically. So the server uses the driver and the .prp file to make the
> > jdbc connection and it waits on a port for a socket connection. So this
> > "server" which is less than 200 lines of code creates a 3-tier(
> > architecture?) making any operating system blackbox. You would not have
> > change any of the other database code you have, it would be independant.
> > An addon I suppose to your existing software.
> > Wadda ya think ? Would you guys be willing to design something like this ?
> > It should take less than a week.
> >
> > Please send comments - thanx =)
> >
> > Robert Milewski  (716) 645-6164 x538
> > Research Engineer
> > Center of Excellence for Document Analysis and Recognition
> > SUNY Buffalo
> >
> > http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~milewski
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Peter Hearty wrote:
> >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > AFAIK (and if I'm wrong - would someone out there please chip in and
> > > correct), there's no way to explicitly set UNIX style file permissions
> in
> > > Java. There are limited capabilities in the java.io.File class, but
> these
> > > are mostly interrogative.
> > >
> > > I think that means that, if you intend to access a database from
> multiple
> > > accounts, it's either a matter of setting up a group with appropriate
> > > permissions or manually setting file permissions once the database has
> been
> > > created.
> > >
> > > Any UNIX Guru's care to comment?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Peter Hearty                         peter.hearty@lutris.com
> > > Lutris Technologies (UK)        http://www.lutris.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert J Milewski" <milewski@cedar.buffalo.edu>
> > > To: <bugs@enhydra.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:11 PM
> > > Subject: instantdb evaluation
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > To whom this may concern,
> > > >    I am a lead design engineer evaluating java database engines for
> > > > one of our projects. While evaluating the latest release of your
> InstantDB
> > > > system in Solaris, I noticed that when I create or modify a table, the
> > > > permissions, user and group information from my umask is used on the
> file
> > > > for that table. This prevents other users from having read/write
> access to
> > > > that table. If there is something I have missed, please notify me
> ASAP. I
> > > > found your system easy to use, but I would not want to scrap it b/c of
> > > > improper handling of Unix permissions. Hopefully I missed something.
> > > > Thank you for your time. =)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Milewski  (716) 645-6164 x538
> > > > Research Engineer
> > > > Center of Excellence for Document Analysis and Recognition
> > > > SUNY Buffalo
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~milewski
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 

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